San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

toejam
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

Post by toejam »

Date Hiked: May 15, 2022
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Remember when Dutra Flat had a spring-fed trough that stayed full of clear water most years? Those days are gone.

On April 9 I messed around with the spring trying to find what was plugging it and managed to get a steady trickle. The trough never filled. On May 15 I worked with it some more and dislodged the blockage so that the pipe flowed like a garden hose. But when I hiked through the next day it was back down to a trickle and the trough had no water in it. I was unable to improve the flow. I also mucked out the trough and found where the bottom is rusted through.

So it is what it is - a practically useless trickle of water into a rusted-out trough.

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It's a gusher!

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Don't get your hopes up.
toejam
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

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Date Hiked: January 22, 2022
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

Dutra Flat spring is not flowing - trough is empty. The creek next to the camp is running with useable water.

The trail east of Dutra Flat is better than it's been. You follow one of a dozen cow paths across the meadows and hope you find a path through the woodsy parts. Follow the bigsurtrailmap.net gps tracks and you'll get where you're going. I've cleared a lot of brush and fallen logs off this trail in the last few months. Only one big step-over blowdown near the bottom of the trail now.
yellowbeard
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

Post by yellowbeard »

Date Hiked: August 1, 2021
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Plenty of water in the trough (about 3" below maximum) at Dutra Flat Camp, however no water is coming from the pipe. Accessed via the Murry Mine Use Trail which is in excellent condition, easy to follow with no deadfall or encroachment.
driggsy
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

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Date Hiked: May 9, 2021
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Surprisingly clear pretty much the whole way. Dutra to the saddle was grassy and good. Did a trail run, and from the saddle down to the slide was very flowy and fun. The slide was easy to pass without backpacks. The slide to salmon creek was the brushiest but still not bad.
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

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Date Hiked: March 24, 2021
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

*** VWA/USFS Volunteer Ranger/Trail Crew Report ***

Description:
The Monterey Ranger District Forest has partially reopened, VWA/USFS Volunteer Rangers continue to prepare opening other parts of the closed forest and are continuing their regular patrols. Today volunteer Rangers patrolled from Spruce Creek Jct to the Spruce Creek Slide to check for additional damage after the winter storms. They cleared minor debris along the trail and rebuilt a 10 yard section of trail leading into the slide. The slide is passable. People appear to be lowering themselves into the gully at the far end of the slide to traverse it.

Trail conditions are as follows:


Jct. to Spruce Creek Slide - Passable, narrow tread and encroaching brush. No trees down. Far end of slide needs repair.
Spruce Creek Slide to Saddle - Passable, lots of encroaching bushes and brush.
Saddle to Dutra Flat - Clear, grass along both sides of trail.

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DISCLAIMER: This report is for informational purposes only. Trail conditions may change at any time. The Ventana Wilderness Alliance assumes no liability for the use of this information.
The Los Padres National Forest Website: https://www.fs.usda.gov/lpnf/

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Far end of Spruce Creek Slide. The Plan is to remove the vegetation on the high side and recut the trail.
Far end of Spruce Creek Slide. The Plan is to remove the vegetation on the high side and recut the trail.
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jbl
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San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

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Date Hiked: June 21, 2020
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

Section Covered:
Salmon Creek trail junction to Dutra Flat

Section: Salmon Creek trail junction to Spruce-Dutra Saddle: Passable
This section is in generally good shape, there is encroaching brush (including the ever-present PO) in places and a few small stepover logs. However as reported by others, the slide area that's about 1 mile up from the Salmon Creek trail junction (see reporting from December '17-January '18 and pictures of the major work that was done to clear that slide and the big trees that were there) has suffered dramatically, with the creek that crossed the trail there having gotten backed up and then taking out about 20' of trail and leaving a deep trench (actually about 10' deep at its deepest) over those 20' (a ~2' diameter log ended up going across on top of that trench).
Here are some pics:
View of trail damage (from Salmon Creek side)
View of trail damage (from Salmon Creek side)
View from on top of log crossing trench
View from on top of log crossing trench
View of trail damage (from Dutra Flat side)
View of trail damage (from Dutra Flat side)
Closeup view from Dutra Flat side
Closeup view from Dutra Flat side
This is not the easiest to negotiate but not impossible; from the Salmon Creek side you either lower yourself into the trench and walk through there or if you have confidence in your balance you can walk across the log; from the Dutra Flat side do the same.

Section: Spruce/Dutra Saddle to Dutra Flat Camp:
I would rate this at about Wilderness Freeway, the grass is getting higher and browner but the track is easy to follow.

Dutra Flat Camp report:
Water is flowing nicely at the spring and the camp is pretty clean.
Dutra Flat-Water Flow at Spring
Dutra Flat-Water Flow at Spring
Dutra Flat Camp
Dutra Flat Camp
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

Post by lehrski »

Date Hiked: June 26, 2020
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Did a quick overnight from Salmon Creek to Dutra Flat Campground. There was a washed out section about a mile from the Salmon Creek junction. The washout was about 3-4 feet deep and fairly easy to cross. It wasn't necessary to take the packs off. There's a good log on one side of the washout, one slightly insecure step and a good log on the other side. The rest of the way was clear and easy. Lots of water flowing in the spring at Dutra. The campsite at Dutra was pretty clean, we picked up a small amount of trash.
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gfelsman
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

Post by gfelsman »

Date Hiked: June 24, 2020
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

We went to check out the Spruce Creek Slide Area about a mile up from the junction with the Salmon Creek Trail. We can say that most of the trail is intact. But a 20 to 30 foot section washed out near the end of the slide. It is 8 to 10 feet deep and does not have secure footing. People have crossed this section by scrambling down the slope and by taking their packs off. Others have turned around. It all depends on your skill and comfort levels.
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gfelsman
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

Post by gfelsman »

Date Hiked: June 20, 2020
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

There has been a report that the Spruce Creek Slide heading towards Dutra may have slipped again. If anyone is headed that way please take photos and share them here or e-mail me directly.
seagoat1724
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Re: San Carpóforo Trail (aka Spruce Creek, Dutra Flats)

Post by seagoat1724 »

Date Hiked: December 8, 2018
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

Trail is passable, could be considered good as the walking is not so hard, but the tread vanishes frequently and would make this quite challenging without knowing the way or having a GPS trace. Much of the trails is through meadow and one must cross them while finding the right entrances and exits to follow trail into more overgrown or forested sections.
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