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Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:54 pm
by Rob
Date Hiked: May 6, 2012
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

Hiked this trail both up and down between the Ventana Double Cone trail and Hiding Camp. The middle section had a fair number of downed trees and a few sections of thick brush which obscured the tread and made routefinding difficult. There was a fair amount of poison oak. Tread was in poor shape in several places. All in all, a pretty decent adventure, but plan on extra time for this one. The frequent creek crossings were welcome on a warm day.

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:01 pm
by sugg
Date Hiked: February 18, 2012
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

I was fairly excited about possibly moving efficiently forward along this trail from the Ventana Trail down to the Carmel River Trail. An epic effort at clearing/ "recovering" this trail was made last year (2011) and it has been holding up relatively well. I encountered quite a bit of dead fall, and quite a bit of dead fall has crashed down and pushed more brush onto the trail. The brush/stickers start becoming a real pain about midway down into the canyon. The brush/stickers aren't too bad during the top third or the bottom third of the trail. In fact, once the trail moves up and over into Hiding Canyon, it becomes nearly county park perfect. Except for the Hiding Canyon section, I couldn't really run while moving along this trail. There simply is too many momentum breakers. For hiking it's fine. Here's some ref. photos I shot during a 2/18/12 outing which focus on this trail. The photos are on Flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/38029403@N03/6905784513/in/set-72157629392744051 There's about six more photos after this one of the trail. Most of the deadfall is small diameter stuff which can be hopped over. The sticker bushes down by the creek section grow back quickly.

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:30 pm
by jack_glendening
Date Hiked: October 26, 2011
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Difficult to impassable after the 2008 fire, the Puerto Suelo Trail is now clear from top to bottom, thanks to cleanup efforts led by Robert Barringer. The tread is well defined and brush has been cut back. A few places do require some a bit of scrambing up/down steep embankments which could be difficult with a heavy pack.

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:46 am
by robert_barringer
Date Hiked: June 25, 2011
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

The middle section of the Puerto Suello Trail is in dire need of repair. Due to a vicious combination of wildland fire, winter erosion, blowdowns, and a general lack of use due to the remoteness of the area, this trail has sadly deteriorated to the point of being nearly impassable except for the hearty, voracious backpacker who is looking to avoid the added distance of alternative routes.

The good news is that trail work is being coordinated for the Puerto Suello Trail. The first formal V.W.A. work trip to this area is scheduled for this upcoming weekend (July 16-18)...see the following link for more details: https://www.google.com/calendar/render? ... output=xml

If anyone has questions or who may be interested in joining us for trail work, please contact me at . Thanks.

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:23 am
by acrews
Date Hiked: July 9, 2011
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

The top of Puerto Suello was very nicely groomed--for maybe 100 yards, then clear and obvious for 1/2 mile. There was water from the stream there at various points the whole way including 150 yards from the top at the VDC trailhead.
The trail gradually got worse and worse. There was flagging of what had once been a trail in the middle which was very reassuring when we found it, but often we were just pushing through head-high shrubs, often doubling back. The valley if fairly narrow, so the trail was often restricted to somewhere in a 50 yard width of the valley, so we knew we weren't far off.
Near the middle, even the flagging gave up, although someone had started putting cairns to indicate...not so much a trail, but rather a route they had used which was probably better than any other route. In this middle 1 mile of Puerto Suello, we probably averaged 1/2 mile per hour, and we were going downhill. Uphill would be even more difficult.
Great thanks to whoever flagged and dropped some cairns. 3/4 mile from Hiding camp at the bottom, the trail was visible again, and it veered up and away from the creek down into Hiding camp.
Going up this trail might be impassable. The trail was certainly obliterated for at least 1 mile, and going down we did manage to traverse it--mostly because the alternatives were 15 miles of hiking back the way we'd come.
andycrewsATgmail.com

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:59 pm
by jack_glendening
Would greatly appreciate getting a GPX track from someone who has done this trail, so that I can put the current track in my on-line Ventana Trail map http://www.ventanahiking.net/ventana_trailmap.html to help guide others. (I'm also interested to see how closely Jeff Schaffer's route compares to the currently flagged route.)

Jack Glendening

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:41 pm
by eviltwinmoe
Date Hiked: May 30, 2011
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

We took the trail from Hiding Camp to Junction at the Ventana Double Cone Trail. It took about three hours and some change to complete. The first mile in is fairly clear and good going. The middle section in rough going, consisting of lots of downed trees, stream crossing, brush breaking and no tread. We were traveling on top of brush for a good portion of the middle section. The top third is passable, but the unstable soil on the switchbacks added to the difficulty. Overall, this trail is borderline impassable, definately not for the faint of heart.

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:08 pm
by Natureboy
Date Hiked: May 26, 2011
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

Kudos to Greg and Co. for the work they did on the PS trail. I ran into them at the VDC junction and they were about to start clearing towards Carmel R. I could not even tell where the PS trail began. When I hiked out the next day it was clear as can be for the first mile! Much work was put in by all obviously. The rain hit as I made the summit, so I'm hoping they didn't get too drenched before they made hiding camp! Thanks guys and gals!!!

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:10 pm
by greg meyer
Date Hiked: May 25, 2011
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

The Youth in Wilderness Program with a group of high school seniors from Pacific Ridge School worked this trail last week. We started at the Puerto Suello junction on the Ventana Double Cone trail and cleared the first .75 of a mile. For the next .5 miles we did light brushing to open the passageway and then we were hit by foul weather and pushed on towards Hiding Camp. We posted additional flags on the middle section of the trail but it is a disaster down there with lots of downed trees, a sea of ceanothus and a jungle of poison oak. The middle section is very slow going because the tread is completely covered, but with our flags hopefully people can get through. The final mile of the trail before hitting the Carmel River is in good shape with obvious tread and no real obstacles. It took our group 3 hours to walk from the VDC trail to Hiding Camp and we were really trying to make good time! Steve Benoit did a great job flagging this and we were able to get a lot of work done because of his efforts.

Re: Puerto Suello Trail

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:49 am
by Coops
Date Hiked: April 16, 2011
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

The Puerto Suello Trail from Hiding camp up is miserable. Just some flagging tape and a ton of brush. We only did about a mile and then turned around and aborted going up to VDC.