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Effective January 22, 2021 U.S. Forest Service - Los Padres National Forest has re-opened most unburned areas of the Monterey Ranger District. In and around the northern Ventana Wilderness, most lands north of and including the Marble Peak Trail are open.

The Pine Ridge Trail from Big Sur Station to Redwood Camp remains closed.

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Ventana Double Cone Trail

Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby AaronP on Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:39 pm

Date Hiked: April 3, 2020
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

Hiked the VDC trail ->Big Pines ->Double Ventana Cone from The Hoist. The VDC trail is passable and relatively easy to follow until you make it to Lone Pine, after then it becomes very vague and bushwhacking is guaranteed with some portions requiring crawling on hands and knees. Some portions about 1 mile before the summit are flagged which is helpful for the return route. The VDC into Big Pines trail leading down from the top was flagged but once you get to the creek it's difficult to follow. The Big Pines trail from the bottom of the VDC was decent. We couldn't find a camp so we hiked up to the benchmark overlooking Big Pines. There's a lovely flat point there with grass if your looking for a place to camp. We also hiked down to Comings Camp and the trail there was easy to follow.
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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby Jaedicke on Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:31 pm

Date Hiked: June 8, 2019
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

Hiked in from HW1. Double cone trail from Puerto Suelo was fine at the start but was heavily overgrown after Lone Pine Camp. There was water at Lone Pine Camp. After the camp there was lots of brush, path was difficult to follow. Someone had gone gone through and cut bigger branches a while ago, so no deadfalls totally blocking the path.
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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby Andrew Carter on Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:59 pm

Date Hiked: April 19, 2019
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Trail is in good shape from intersection with Big Pines Trail to supposed intersection with Puerto Suello Trail (which no longer exists). Trail easy to follow, established tread, at least 95% of blowdowns cleared.

I took the trail a little beyond the intersection (200-300 yards). It looks like the blowdown maintenance stops, so no guarantee about the ease (or lack thereof) of actually making it to the Double Cone.

As FYI, Pats Spring is flowing. Spring box is completely full.
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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby Jim Ringland on Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:21 am

Date Hiked: April 16, 2019
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

(I originally posted a trail report for the segment from the Turner Creek Saddle to Pat Springs in this forum thread. Various reports assign different places for where the Skinner Ridge Trail ends and the Ventana Double Cone Trail begins. The definition in very first entry in this thread, for instance, indicates everything east of the Turner Creek Trail junction belongs here. I've moved the report to the Skinner Ridge Trail thread based on http://www.ventanawild.org/forums/ventana-discussion/1797.)
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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby pantilat on Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:01 pm

Date Hiked: December 17, 2017
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

This report covers the entire length of the Ventana Double Cone Trail from the Big Pines JCT to the Ventana Double Cone summit.

From Big Pines JCT to Pat Springs: Clear. Somebody came through with a saw and cleared dozens blowdowns obstructing the trail. This was much appreciated for a long day trip to VDC with unknown conditions. There was one large oak over the trail where it cross the small stream immediately before the junction with the Big Pines Connector Trail. Fortunately most of the ponderosas along the trail before Pat Springs survived. Pat Springs is flowing well from both pipes.

From Pat Springs to Little Pines: Difficult. A faint trail departs from Pat Springs and one soon encounters several blowdowns in a section of pine forest that was mostly decimated in the fire (sad to see but we already noticed a lot of young pine saplings emerging from the ash). Some of these blowdowns are large diameter pines. Most of them are easy to get around but there are a few awkward ones. The tread through the meadows is mostly nonexistent as we weren't sure if we were on the former trail or deer paths. At Little Pines the majority of Ponderosas appear to have survived (thankfully) but there are still many blowdowns to navigate.

From Little Pines to Puerto Suello: Difficult. In the vicinity of Little Pines Camp the tread disappears in a section of nondescript ash and regrowth but it's important to use GPS or mico navigation to stay in the vicinity of the former trail as best as possible since it soon enters a section of thick brush and blowdowns that did not burn. Without this tunnel the section would be very difficult to impassable. There are a few blowdowns on this section, some of which are awkward or require crawling underneath. The trail emerges from the brush onto the west slopes of Uncle Sam Mountain that were severely burned. While portions of this traverse beneath Uncle Sam Mountain somewhat resemble what it looked like before the fire and winter storms, the majority of it is in very poor shape with sloping or totally eroded tread and lots of blowdowns. NOTE: The "Savior" spring mentioned in the prior post is totally dry so this is probably only a reliable "spring" into the summer during wet years.

From Puerto Suello to Ventana Double Cone Summit: Difficult. This section of trail is the most remote stretch and apparently hasn't seen many visitors (if any) in 18 months. Here you get the "best" of both worlds (or worst depending on your perspective) with impediments relating to sections that burned (blowdowns, lack of tread) and sections that didn't burn (very overgrown brush). The first part of the trail up from Puerto Suello Gap severely burned and did an effective job clearing out the thick brush that used to exist here but it also created new blowdowns and a lack of tread similar to what is encountered on the preceding section traversing beneath Uncle Sam Mountain. The fire did not burn as hot on the west side of the ridge and therefore there is more standing brush and blowdowns whenever the trail switchbacks to that side. There is a section that did not burn around point 4366 with some brush tunneling but the trail enters another burned section with skeleton blowdowns heading down to Lone Pine Camp. From Lone Pine Camp the remainder of the trail and surrounding terrain is unburned with some sections that have become very overgrown, particularly with sticky ceanothus that reaches 10+ ft tall. It used to be that the brush would gradually improve as one progressed closer to VDC, but some of the worst brush swims (or crawls) are now within a mile of the summit after Ventana Spring Camp. You clothing will feel like sticky ceanothus after passage! The trail finally emerges from the brush within a half mile to the summit where it passes through some beautiful Santa Lucia Firs. The summit register showed a lot of helicopter activity on the summit to install and then remove a radio repeater during the fire and then maintain the weather gauge that remotely measures precipitation for the flood alert system. Per the register, it had been 18 months since anybody stood on VDC arriving on foot and we were the first party of 2017 whether by air or foot. It's been a quiet time on VDC, but the summit view is as good as ever especially looking across the rugged cirque to the Window, Kandlbinder and Pico Blanco, one of the most inspiring and dramatic views in the Ventana.

Photo album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wDzSjaLHi6DdMgx12
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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby RSIBryce on Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:06 pm

Date Hiked: September 23, 2017
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

Section: From Little Pines to the Puerto Suelo trail junction

We reached the Ventana Double Cone (VDC) trail hiking up from Rattlesnake camp, having attempted to survey the historic Rattlesnake trail. We were hiking a B.A.E.R Trail Survey assignment for the USFS in the Soberanes Burn area. We reached the VDC walking the ridge due north of the creek, at the area known as Little Pines (not to be confused with the camp of Little Pines). The fire created quite a bit of damage in this area and downed trees reigned. It was difficult discerning the tread as we navigated downed complexes of trees. Some of the pines survived, others burned outright. It will take a lot of work to clean up the trail in this area. (I hiked the section after the Big Pines Junction to Pat Spring in January, and this section is in bad shape as well- just piles on piles of downed trees and brush). As we continued it became much easier to follow the tread, as the trail leaves the ridge and begins to traverse Uncle Sam Mountain, there was less dry ravel in the trail and the tread was very easy to follow. I counted 16 downed trees in this section, the largest being a 28" Pine near Little Pines. A peculiar feature we found in this area, and later elsewhere- is grass and other herbacious plants growing directly out of the tread. I don't recall seeing this in past years. Perhaps its due to the fire? Or maybe the lack of foot traffic I began to think- but yet we know animals have been using these trails as evidenced by the abundant scat we came across and other markings. Speaking of scat, we saw what we are sure was bear scat, (large diameter, enormous volume-dinner plate size- berry and grass laden.) We saw at least a dozen of these between Little Pines, down Puetro Suelo and down the Carmel River. There was a slide along this trail as well that we gingerly crossed in one of the steeper sections as well, about 30 feet long.

Water was an issue for us -- having started at a dry makeshift camp out of necessity the night before (having attempted and failed at following Rattlesnake trail to Little Pines and opting not to go searching for the Little Pines Spring since the area had been devastated by the fire and travel was difficult) -- we were elated to come across an unexpected spring alongside Uncle Sam Mountain (that feeds Puerto Suelo Creek, which runs westerly, joining the Little Sur River below.) I dubbed it "savior spring" having finished my water early that morning and recalling the dubious nature of the spring along Puerto Suelo trail, had been hiking rather anxiously as my mind wandered toward a thirst quenching sip of H2O. I recall too that the morning began with heat almost immediately. But even in August in this year of the great rains, water was abundant. We were glad and grateful.

Editor [JG] note: The "Savior Spring" report is very interesting, particularly since found during the dry season. Obtaining water has always been a problem on the VDC Trail so has generated much interest, yet I don't recall anyone previously reporting water along that section - and I have never seen such on my 5 traverses. So one has to think it results from the massive rainfall and wonder whether it will repeat in succeeding years.
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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby jack_glendening on Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:01 pm

Date Hiked: July 17, 2016
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Clear from Bottchers Gap to Pat Spring. Two 2.5 ft and one 1.5 ft diameter trees across the trail in the Big Pines area.

Correction to the previous trail report - PAT SPRING IS FLOWING
(FYI I have never known it to be dry, even through the summers of multiple drought years)

Folks, this what Pat Spring looks like. There is a sign pointing
to "Water" along the VDC Trail and usually a well-worn path to it,
as there was today (so well worn that it has often been mistaken
for the continuation of the VDC Trail, leading to the Double Cone
summit, which it is not)
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Pat Spring - July 17, 2016

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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby dmarangonisimonsen on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:54 am

Date Hiked: July 9, 2016
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

Day 1: Bottcher's Gap -> Pat Springs
Day 2: Pat Springs -> DoubleCone -> Pat Springs
Day 3: Pat Springs -> Bottcher's Gap

Pat Springs was not flowing. We found a small trickle near the Big Pines intersection, but I wouldn't be surprised if that dried up within a week. Lone Pine camp had water, and the hike would've been brutal if we didn't find the spring there. If I were to do this again I'd hike in more water just in case. Again, we did this hike in early July 2016.

The other reviews are pretty spot on. The trail from Puerto Suello to Double Cone was brushy almost all the way up. Completely doable, but this was no walk in the park. The trail was very well marked and although we went off it a few times, we quickly found it again due to the pink/orange ribbons. We estimated a 1.5 mile/hour pace through the brush+elevation.
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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby pantilat on Tue May 31, 2016 1:56 pm

Date Hiked: May 29, 2016
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

From the Puerto Suello Trail junction to the Double Cone summit: the trail is now "Passable" with substantial improvement from my last visit in 2015. There are still some brush push-throughs but virtually all deadfall/blowdowns (there were many) have been removed from the trail, the brushiest spots have been improved (in particular near Ventana Spring camp where the ceanothus was starting to interlock) and orange flagging has been put up in the tricky spots so following the trail is not an issue.

This year there is a beautiful bloom of Lupinus cervinus (Santa Lucia Lupine), approaching and on the summit of the Double Cone.

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Note the Santa Lucia Fir (Abies bracteata) behind the Santa Lucia Lupine, both species endemic to the Santa Lucia Mountains.
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Re: Ventana Double Cone Trail

Postby Scot Miller on Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:06 pm

Date Hiked: February 15, 2016
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

I (and two other people) hiked from Bottcher's Gap to Pat Springs and on to the Ventana Double Cone summit.

From Pat Springs to the Puerto Suelo trail junction: The trail was easy to follow and had been cleared of any downed trees/logs. There was some brush that encroached upon the trail, but it wasn't an major obstacle. There's a clearing at the Puerto Suelo trail junction where one could camp, but there was no water at that junction. We heard that the Puerto Suelo trail had recently been cleared, but we didn't explore this route at all.

From Puerto Suelo to Lone Pine Camp: The brush immediately became very thick once we left the Puerto Suelo junction (heading toward Lone Pine Camp). Upon leaving the junction, the trail immediately heads uphill, and this first uphill section had the worst brush. There were several downed trees/logs that we had to navigate over or under. In general, we were able to follow the trail without too much trouble. Lone Pine looked like a decent place to camp. The campsite area is clear of any brush or undergrowth. Unlike Pat Springs with its beautiful vistas, Lone Pine Camp does not have any views. One person in our party went to look for water at Lone Pine Camp. He found water but said it was difficult to access.

From Lone Pine Camp to Ventana Double Cone summit: This stretch was relatively similar to the previous stretch -- plenty of thick brush. We were usually able to follow the trail but briefly lost the trail 3 times. Someone has tied colored ribbon/tape onto the brush at some of the trickiest points on the trail, and those trail markers helped a lot. There were two or three instances when the brush was so thick that we had to crawl on hands and knees. There were also stretches where the trail was clear of brush. In particular, the trail becomes much clearer and easier as you get closer to the summit. After summiting, we tried to bushwhack over to the Kandelbinder summit, but the ridge between the two summits was completely impassible because of the brush. We turned around after about 45 minutes and returned to the Ventana Double Cone trail.

In summary, we had a great time on the trip (and the summit was stunning!). However, we "swam" through a lot of brush once we left the Puerto Suelo junction and all ended the hike relatively scratched up.
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