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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby vonSpifficus on Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:51 pm

Date Hiked: January 11, 2014
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Hiked Manuel on Saturday from Pfeiffer up to the peak. 1st two miles of trail were wilderness freeway, then passable to the summit. Couple washouts & deadfalls to navigate through, but nothing tricky. Encroaching brush kept our legs company towards the top, but we were fine in shorts. No poison oak in sight, nor water. Would like to try taking this through to Botcher's on a next visit.
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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby gcilley on Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:23 am

Date Hiked: July 28, 2011
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

The last few posts summarize it well. The trail starts off well-maintained but some spots are almost completely washed-out, very little tread. I was able to pass over them by moving quickly and walking lightly but there was a couple large sections that were more dangerous than most. The photos on paul_shroeder and jack_glendening's posts below are still accurate.

Near the top the brush is very dense, nearly impassible. I was very glad to be wearing pants. A fair amount of poison oak on the trail.

All in all, it was a bit dangerous and unrelenting and wasn't a super-interesting hike.
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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby jack_glendening on Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:27 pm

Date Hiked: July 25, 2013
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

The last two reports suggested that conditions might have markedly deteriorated since my hike there in January, so I decided to see for myself the current trail status. Unfortunately I only had time to hike to where one first sees the Ventana Double Cone, 2.9 trail miles from the upper Oak Grove Trail intersection. While the tread was eroded and narrow in places, a wilderness trail which has not been maintained recently, I did not feel it was dangerous so long as one exercised caution - the narrowest tread was around 6 inches. [Here I am comparing to my previous report/photo of 20 March 2012 when the entire tread was eroded, crossing which was definitely dangerous.] The tread is rough and degraded and one does have to keep ones eyes on the trail while hiking, but there is little overgrowth and the route is never in doubt. There are some "step-over" downfall trees. I would judge that conditions have deteriorated only slightly from my January hike. Having a pole helped greatly and is strongly recommended. (personally I find using a single pole, for the downslope side, to be better than trying to use two poles)

I'd expected that the spring along the way (on a short side trail below the trail) would be bone dry, but instead found some surface flow - but it was more like a seep and getting any water would be very time consuming. Still, I was surprised to find any surface water at all at this time in this dry year. Some Madrone branches have fallen over the spring area and partially cover it - I found the metal bowl but not the "Pfeiffer Big Sur State Park" cup.

On the return I surprised a dark gray bobcat - I'd never seen one so dark that no black markings were visible on it even though I was fairly close.

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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby Ivanhchew on Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:52 pm

Date Hiked: July 21, 2013
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

I did this trail on a sunny day with fair weather with a friend, the park ranger told us it wasn't maintained after 4 miles due to a forest fire a few years ago and it seemed like we were the only ones on the trail.

The start of the trail is easy with a slight incline, however some parts were washed out with loose gravel. Trekking poles came in handy. After a few miles in we ran into a lot of brush and thorn bushes, long pants are recommended.
When we got up to the spring about half way to the peak (no water this time of year) the trail is completely obliterated with loose gravel for 15-20 yards. I scrambled over, but my hiking partner had shoes with weak treads and getting over was a risk she did not want to take (I would also recommend hiking boots with deep treads and not trail running shoes). I would like to come back sometime with a shovel to make some footings out of the trail washout, (some pictures are included in the posts below). We were disappointed we could not get to the summit, but were happy to be able to hike another day.

I do not recommend this trail to novice / height-challenged hikers.
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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby Poopycat on Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:33 pm

Date Hiked: July 7, 2013
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

I'm not a novice hiker, but am clearly not as advanced as the rest of you, so consider this point as you read my post.

I decided to try Mount Manuel this morning. At first, I didn't find the trail to be particularly challenging; the ascent felt pretty gradual and I was making good time.

I don't have the coordinates (again, not as advanced as all of you), but about an hour and 10 minutes in, I noticed that the trail was becoming very challenging. There were a couple of times when I actually sat down and slid past eroding sections. I should have turned back then, but kept going.

Eventually, another 15 minutes or so later, I got to a point where I couldn't even see a trail anymore, things were so eroded. The hike was no longer fun for me; given my "journeywoman" level of skill, I decided the right move was to turn back. I am disappointed that I couldn't finish what I started, by I would rather be alive and unhurt :)

I did finish the other trails in Pfeiffer, except for Oak Grove of course, so I got a good workout.
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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby Elliott Robinson on Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:12 pm

Date Hiked: April 7, 2013
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

This is for the trail from Vado Camp to Mt. Manuel. Trail really doesn't exist so if you like route finding and bushwhacking its good fun. Hiked up Ventana Creek and then went up Ventana Double Cone. Looked for the Tin House Trail to finish off the loop. No luck, so went to what I thought would be a solid trail (should have read the forum, doh!). Couldn't find Vado Camp, so decided to head up a limetone ridge that I figured would get me to the spot. After going up a bout 1500 ft and finding what seemed like an intermittent path, I convinced myself I was missing something so head back down. At that point I realized that sure enough, here was another delightful Ventana non-trail complete with crawling, cussing, poking and complete elation. It was made more difficult, because I had spent the night after going up VDC, wading through the Little Sur. Recommended only for the most stout.

Heading down from the summit seemed fine, but it was dark and raining (and I was pretty whipped from 40 some hours of walking at that point), so not much to say there...was bummed when i came out at Molera when I parked at Pfieffer Big Sur.
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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby paul_schroeder on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:17 am

Date Hiked: February 10, 2013
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

Similar to previous post, some parts of the trail have eroded, but it's still passable if you're moderately surefooted. Worst part is a 15-20 yard stretch where a slide has buried the trail with loose stones/gravel/sand. It's a pretty steep slope and there is virtually no tread. So be careful there (see attached pic). Other than that there is some bushwhacking required in the upper part of the trail. One stretch right after that last left turn before getting into the oak forested area is pretty much overgrown but you can push through. Wearing shorts was a bad idea even though the weather was gorgeous. Got some nice scratches on my shins.
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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby jack_glendening on Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:14 am

Date Hiked: January 14, 2013
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

From Trailhead to "Viewpoint"

I hiked the trail primarily to see how it fared after the recent rain events. As expected the trail is rough, with sections of tread having been eroded away from below or having slumped or been covered by erosion from above. In general, even after erosion at least 8 inches of useable tread remains on the trail. By far the worst spot [at N36.25716,W121.76121] is a 70 ft long section which has eroded from above the trail, covering it and producing a steeply sloped area which one must be careful crossing, as a slip would result in a long slide/fall downhill. Hikers have crossed it to create a very rough use trail - as more people cross that tread should become more even and hence safer. This was the only place where I decided to use my pole for safety but with care could have crossed without it - on my hike I met six people who had crossed that section sans poles, including one person carrying a baby (and two who came over Cabezo Prieto with loppers, which gladdened my heart to see - Mikhail and Dennis said they have been on VWA trailcrews). [This slide is much less dangerous than the one I reported on March 20, which left absolutely no tread.]

I could not get a good photo of this slide but below is a photo of another area which illustrates the susceptibility of the slope to erosion, both at the trail and elsewhere. I plan to hike the trail periodically during rainy season to see how the trail fares.

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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby jpdoelman on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:22 pm

Date Hiked: October 21, 2012
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

We found the trail marked by a sign and a switch back at the point directly below the MtManuel-PostSummit saddle. The sign there was likely the TinHouse/Manuel trail intersection. From that point the trail is obscure. Not tread or trail evidence was found going north. This position is along the now "historic" route of the Mt. Manuel trail:

http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.p ... &z=14&t=t4
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Re: Manuel Peak Trail

Postby donkris on Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:04 pm

Date Hiked: June 15, 2012
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

Agree with previous poster. This trail is disappearing after mile 4. Impossible shoulder high brush that must be bulldozed through at a very slow pace. I saw two red marker flags where I suppose the trail is, but the head high impenetrable growth swallowed any sign of a trail. At this point I had had enough of bush whacking and decided to turn back.
The weather was very fine with good ocean breezes coming through. Flies were prevalent at higher altitudes. I had one tick on my pants and saw one dangling on the end of a weed, waiting for me to pass. Saw a baby rattler poking his head out of a hole in the trail.
The first 3 miles are a methodical climb of moderate effort. After the third mile, the trail is very overgrown in spots and must pushed through. There are a couple slide areas which can be dicey. Views west were somewhat disappointing.
I hope to complete this trail someday, as it was strenuous but very interesting.
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