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Re: Indian Valley Camp Trail

Postby Betsy M on Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:22 pm

Date Hiked: October 8, 2018
General Condition: Wilderness Freeway (Heavily used and well maintained)

Between the Lost Valley Trail and Indian Valley Camp


Trail is wilderness freeway. Newly rebuilt and cut back.

From Marble peak trail to Old Indian Valley Use Camp
Trail good to Indian Valley with flagging of various colors, but the trail fades out after the Use Camp.

Note: Trail from Lost Valley Trail to the old Indian Valley Camp is good, and the trail from Marble Peak Trail to the Indian Valley Use Camp is is good but getting between the two is near impossible. The mid-section is very overgrown.
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Re: Indian Valley Camp Trail

Postby Firefly on Tue May 07, 2019 11:14 am

Date Hiked: April 30, 2019
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

I tried to follow this trail from both directions, just to see if it was possible. The short section from Lost Valley trail to the old Indians Camp the trail is clear. There is no obvious campsite at Indian Valley-- any previously existing fire ring or other campsite friendly things have been lost to time. From Indians camp onward, there is only one piece of tape still clinging to a bush indicating where the trail originally continued. But within a few yards I was inching forward on hands and knees to avoid thickets and thorns. I even tried following the creek instead but the creek has so much deadfall crossing it that's not an option either. I gave it an earnest effort, but given that even had I been able to continue through sheer will, I may not have been able to find my way back, I gave up and went back the way I came.

Out of curiousity, I decided to try to follow the trail from the other direction, coming from Marble Peak trail. The junction there is clearly marked with a sign. I could follow the trail, which has been marked with pink tape, for almost a quarter mile before I got to the impassable section. According to GPS I was only about .1 mile from where I had turned around from the other direction. So if we could just clear that .1 or .2 mile section, this trail would be usable.

As is it is a good example of what "impassable" means in the Ventana wilderness.

[Ed: VWA volunteers scouting this trail found the remains of an old icebox stove in the bushes above the clearing where Indian Valley Camp is located, but no fire ring. The VWA trail crew hopes to connect these two sections.]
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Re: Indian Valley Camp Trail

Postby Betsy M on Wed May 30, 2018 4:20 pm

Date Hiked: May 28, 2018
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

VWA trail crew volunteers opened the southern access trail to Indian Valley Camp. There is a sign at the junction with the Lost Valley Trail. This is just south of the small waterfall on the Lost Valley Trail. As noted in previous reports, the trail climbs steeply out of the small valley. It arrives quickly at a large, open meadow. We found the remains of an old icemaker stove. There is no evidence of anyone camping here. No fire ring, no cleared grass. If you do camp here make sure to use care with your fire.

We also cleared fallen trees from the northern access trail to the Indian Valley use camp. This camp is located in a smaller open area, with less space for tents. Additionally there is no connection between the two camps, and the riparian area in this valley is dense with fallen trees and thick brush.
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Re: Indian Valley Camp Trail

Postby Jim Ringland on Sun May 15, 2016 5:55 pm

Date Hiked: May 12, 2016
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

I walked from the Marble Peak Trail back to the MC Use Camp. The junction is signed. The trail begins through open chaparral and then drops down into a stream corridor. It’s well flagged. That’s good because there’s not always much tread up top. Down in the stream corridor (dry when I passed), it’s a bit brushy and there are a few easy blowdowns to deal with. One blowdown was just a bit harder: more ducking and plenty of poison oak in just the wrong places. The MC Use Camp –- it sports a well-burnt sign with the initials MC -– is a little-used affair in a clearing surrounded by still-burned-out-looking trees and shrub stems. There's a grass-filled partial fire ring and a few nearby rocks that might be used for sitting. That's it. There was no nearby water when I was there. I didn’t go on to the main Indian Valley Camp, or for that matter, verify whether there were flags that would lead me there. The whole area just didn’t seem very appealing.
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Re: Indian Valley Camp Trail

Postby jack_glendening on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:12 pm

Date Hiked: April 21, 2012
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

I can't believe this is the first report since 2007 !

Indian Valley Trail was in largely the same condition as on my last visit 5 months ago, i.e. did not have the extensive downfall I found on both the Marble Peak and Lost Valley Trails. There were "Passable" sections, particularly at the northern and southern trailheads, but without much obvious connection between them. However it was generally not too difficult to find some openings in the brush, and often a faint usetrail, between the passable sections. The main difficulty was extensive brush near the creek. There was a decent waterflow, so I could not walk in the creekbed. It appears that someone has been trying to maintain the northern end of the trail.

Indian Valley Camp has been extensively dug up by pigs. I could not find a sign or a grill, and certainly there is no table as mentioned by the last Trail Report in 2007! I did find a metal square which is apparently the a remains of an icemaker stove.
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Trail Conditions History 1999-2007

Postby Site Administrator on Tue May 26, 2009 8:31 am

Conditions reported by: jdoelman
Survey date: 24-MARCH-2007
General: DIFFICULT
Specific:

From the Marble Peak Trail, there is a sign marking the Indian Valley Camp Trail junction. We followed the trail from the Marble Peak Trail and lost the trail 2 times where backtracking was required to regain the trail (each time we found the correct route within 5 minutes). The tread is faint. The campsite location is open and grassy and suitable for a large party. Only two legs of the camp table remain.

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Conditions reported by: Lindsay Jeffers - Stevenson Wilderness Program
Survey date: 8-MARCH-2005
General: CLEAR
Specific:

From the Lost Valley Trail, the route is well signed. It proceeds steeply up a small canyon into the valley beyond. Near the top, tall brush has encroached on the trail. Coming back out after a night camping in the rain, the weight of the water had pulled the bushes down sufficiently to make route finding difficult. A little clipping would open up the trail nicely. The use trail to the Marble Peak Trail would need some exploratory work to re-open, although it was passable one year ago.
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Conditions reported by: Stevenson School Wilderness Expedition
Survey date: FEB-2002
General: PASSABLE
Specific:

This trail has been reworked recently. The path is steep in sections of its quarter mile length, but it is easy to follow. From the main camp site, the continuation of the trail that used to connect to the Marble Peak Trail has become largely invisible.
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Conditions reported by: Steve Wilson
Survey date: 1-MAY-99
General: PASSABLE
Specific:

Passable, tread indistinct in places. If in doubt, look for evidence of cutting. It follows a mostly dry water course for about half the distance between Marble Peak trail and the camp. Both ends of the trail well signed.retch. There are a few brushy spots and a few small burnt downfalls.
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Indian Valley Camp Trail

Postby Site Administrator on Mon May 25, 2009 5:03 pm

* USFS Trail #
* Parking:
* Watersheds: Higgins Creek
* Junctions: Marble Peak Trail, Lost Valley Trail
* Connects: Marble Peak Trail with Lost Valley Trail
* Camps: New Indian Valley Camp
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