Turner Creek Trail

jyoder93

Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by jyoder93 »

Date Hiked: July 6, 2020
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

Turner creek trail is extremely overgrown, though I passed through it twice over the weekend, hacking with an 12-inch blade as I went. After my passage trail conditions are better than they were, but some hikers may still find this to be an impassable trail. It is a heavy bush-wack, and has one large downed tree with it's canopy across the trail which was difficult to climb over. The section from the trailhead to apple tree camp was worse than the remaining section after that, up to the ridge. Apple tree camp (directly next to the creek) had plentiful water and is a great campsite, though there's a precarious dead tree across the creek overhanging the site. On the way up to skinner ridge from Apple tree camp, I stumbled upon a huge rattlesnake that must've been at least 4 ft long, directly on the trail. After a long showdown I started to carefully bush whack around it and it scurried into the brush away from me. Too close for comfort. WATCH the trail as you go. On the way back down later on, I heard rockfall nearby but could not see it, which was also frightening as it sounded like it was coming my way. There's a boulder on the trail indicating rockfall may be a hazard with potential for hitting the trail. This could be a horrible time or great rugged adventure depending how you look at it. But don't go unless you want to bushwhack. Long pants and sleeves are a must. TONS of poison oak and some growing as high as face height. If I were to go back, I'd bring gloves and a machete!
htrent

Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by htrent »

Date Hiked: June 13, 2020
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

The trail is evident to anyone with an eye for it, however despite being able to keep track of the trail, (or what was) the area was completely overgrown with brush, and plenty of spiny thorn bushes.
That being said there is still an accurate sign at the intersection with the Skinner Ridge Trail, and it is still possibly to follow the trail however it ought to be marked as a lost trail.
vJaedicke

Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by vJaedicke »

Date Hiked: June 8, 2019
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

Hike from beginning of Long Ridge Road to Double Cone peak. Turner Creek trail was impassable after Apple Tree Rustic camp. Lost the trail on both ways, in and out. 10 feet high brush and poison oak made it very hard to go through. Would not anybody to go through there.
croombeatty

Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by croombeatty »

Date Hiked: May 31, 2019
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

Trail is covered in poison oak once you drop down towards the creek- a lot of it you can avoid but much of it is impossible to bypass. A couple of sections where the trail completely disappears and you have to bushwhack / search to regain it. A couple of downed trees in places but easy enough to scramble over. The Turner Creek campsite is clear and the water is flowing fully in the stream.

When we drove up to the TH a local gave us permission to continue but warned us to tell others not to drive to the TH and instead to walk from the junction w/ Palo Colorado Rd. Upon returning to our car, someone had left a note on our windshield telling us we are not allowed to be here. They also wrapped poison oak around our door handles and scattered it around the entrance to the driver door (pretty aggressive behavior).
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Jim Ringland
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Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by Jim Ringland »

Date Hiked: April 16, 2019
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

I hiked in from the Hoist and Long Ridge Road on the 16th on my way to Comings Camp. Out on the 18th.

The trailhead off Long Ridge Road is not marked. I initially walked right past it. At the very east end of Long Ridge Road, the route straight ahead leads to private property. The last bit of road turns right (southeast) steeply down the hill. The Turner Creek Trail takes off to the left about 300’ after that right turn. A bit beyond on the road is a metal sign that says “This Way”, which, I discovered as I explored down there, is meant for a cabin’s visitors, not hikers. If you reach the sign, retrace your steps about 100’.

Once on the trail, the situation is much as Genea described in his March report. It’s clear down to Turner Creek Camp except for one crawl-under fallen tree. Turner Creek Camp is, as noted, mostly brushed in, although you can easily get to the creek for water if need be. The segment from Turner Creek Camp to Apple Tree Camp has a few deadfalls and several places where you have to push through encroaching ceanothus. Branches from both sides of the trail mingle but don’t interlock. Elsewhere, there can be blackberries at your feet. Still, between camps the overall feel is one of a quite passable trail. At Apple Tree, there are two campsites. The lower seems to be getting most use. It’s right on the creek – too close – but it has a nice bedsite. The higher camp is farther from water but doesn’t have an obvious good bedsite. Both have fire grates. The trail up to the Skinner Ridge Trail from Apple Tree appears to have seen the greatest deterioration. There’s the same ceanothus (perhaps a little denser) as between the two camps, but now there's more poison oak mixed in. One can limit PO contact but probably not avoid it completely. Some deadfalls. Going up, I got off the trail several times. It was mostly a case of misjudging which vague opening in the brush was the correct one. No trail-finding problems coming down on the return. The good news is that the really bad sections aren’t too long, they alternate with considerably less bad ones, and it does open out up before the top.
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Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by gene a »

Date Hiked: March 11, 2019
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

The Turner Creek Trail is slowly deteriorating. From the National Forest boundary to the unusable Turner Creek Camp, its wilderness freeway. As the trail gains elevation, one encounters new, large tree falls, some requiring a work around. Tall dense brush has completely enclosed the trail in sections. The trail is passable and not hard to find, but its getting more difficult. The trail improves as it nears the junction with the Skinner Ridge Trail. There were some large colonies of ladybugs along the trail on the day of my visit.
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gene a
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Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by gene a »

Date Hiked: December 3, 2018
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

The trail is mostly clear with the exception of several deadfall trees and tall brush that is enclosing a few short sections. The sharp sticker vines the occur in other sections are a menace- I recommend pants and gaiters. Turner Creek Camp is entirely covered in the vines and is unusable. Apple Tree Camp is in fine shape.
pantilat
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Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by pantilat »

Date Hiked: December 17, 2017
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

The trail is mainly clear save for a couple remaining blowdowns. There is evidence of recent saw cuts on several of post-fire blowdowns so thanks to whoever is maintaining this trail. The tread is sometimes covered by sticker vines which can also be a trip hazard. There is some poison oak encroaching but it's all avoidable. There is currently good water flow in the creek at both Turner Creek and Applegate Camps, but the creek surface is dry in between for a short distance. Overall, this trail is in good shape from the end of Long Ridge Road to the Skinner Ridge Trail.
Daniel S
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Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by Daniel S »

Date Hiked: April 4, 2015
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

Trail has some encroaching poison oak but nothing that blocks the path, easy to follow, one deadfall between turner creek camp and the road but there is a use trail around it. People seem to be taking horses through this trail. Water at both apple tree and turner creek camps.
ventanahiker86
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Re: Turner Creek Trail

Post by ventanahiker86 »

Date Hiked: April 2, 2015
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

A friend and I hiked to Turner Creek Camp from Long Ridge Road, starting from The Hoist on Palo Colorado Rd. Hiking Long Ridge was no problem, other than its steepness! We encountered friendly residents along the road (one of whom I happened to know...small world).

Turner Creek Trail from Long Ridge Rd to Turner Creek Camp is mostly clear, other than encroaching poison oak and one prominent deadfall. The poison oak is mostly avoidable, seeming worse beyond Turner Creek Camp toward Apple Tree Camp (we turned around shortly past Turner). The deadfall, a madrone tree that has fallen over the trail, is easily stepped under. I did notice what seemed like a use-trail skirting up and around the deadfall here, but that option looked more arduous. Turner Creek Camp is a nice spot! Turner Creek was flowing nicely.
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