Pine Ridge Trail

crockettonearth
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail

Post by crockettonearth »

Date Hiked: May 5, 2024
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

Betsy led a great volunteer saw trip which allowed me to help remove 26 trees between Terrace Creek and Redwood Creek Camp.

Including our primary objective a big redwood tree complex near Redwood camp.
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In short, there should be no more deadfall on the trail between Terrace Creek and Redwood Creek Camp at the time of this writing!

I plan on editing a video of the tree work I captured on the trip slowly as time allows.

My tree count notes from the trip.

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Tree count
#1 - Small redwood hand saw
#2 - Oak
#3 - Oak
#4 - Oak
#5 Carrot Tree 5 cuts day 1 - 1 cut day 3

Day Two
#6 1 cut
#7 One cut single buck

Redwood complex
#8 Small Madrone
#9 Medium Redwood. 3 cuts
#10 Big Redwood 124 years old - 2 Cuts


#11 Tan Oak 1 cut hardwood - hot part of the day. lots of p-oak
#12 Small oak - Axe work only
#13 Medium oak - cut below the trail
#14. Medium oak cut below the trail
#15 Medium oak tree - Redwood camp entrance
Hand saw work only

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Day 3 05/04/24 - rain 1/2 the day. Heavy at times.

#16 - Old burned oak - Axe work only
#17 Tan oak - one cut - cleared with help from 4 hikers
#5 - Cut #6 Carrot tree finally done!
#18 - Live Oak One cut in the rain - in the closer area. *Stay out of this area and use the bypass
#19 - Small tree Big Sur river crossing hand saw
#20 - Small tree Big Sur river crossing hand saw
#21 Redwood Barlow flat camp - cross-cut saw
#21 - Oak Tree - two cuts cross cut saw

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Day 4

#22 small tree Sykes camp
#23 Small tree Sykes camp
#24 Small tree log wood creek
#25 small tree log wood creek
#26 Big tan oak 1 cut cross cut saw near Terrace Creek camp Fell down in the rain day #3.

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We need more folks to help do work on these trails. Sign up for a trip here: https://www.meetup.com/ventana-wilderne ... ce-meetup/
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Betsy M
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail

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Date Hiked: March 2, 2024
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

There is a slide blocking the Pine Ridge Trail, just upstream of the crib wall that was constructed last November. The Monterey County Sheriff's Search and Rescue responded to a report of 5 hikers stuck on the upstream side of the slide, and used rigging to get the hikers across the slide one at a time.

Because this slide is in the part of the trail that was bypassed after the 2017 slip out, it is still an option to take the reroute to get around the new slide. However, if the water level is high, this is a dangerous option. You can check flow rates in the Big Sur River at the USGS Water Data page. Our current guess is that the crossings are passable at flow rates less than 250 cubic feet per second. But this is very dependent on the individual and their comfort level with water crossings. Be prepared to get wet, at a minimum, until mid-summer.

Note: in the second photo, showing the slide, it may look like you can get past this slide. YOU CANNNOT GET PAST THIS SLIDE. There is a 200 foot drop to the river below.

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-l ... dian=false

PRT slide location Nov 2023.jpg
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crockettonearth
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail #2 Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge

Post by crockettonearth »

Date Hiked: February 25, 2024
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

02/25/2024

Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail;

There is a lot of tree work that needs to be done in this segment as well.

A core area of note is a tree complex approaching Redwood camp where a large redwood about 3 ft in diameter is down across the trail; it took down two other trees also on the trail. I cut a portal through the branches. But some crosscut saw work will be needed to fully clear them. This is the largest tree down on the segment I scouted.

Trees and trail work from Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge trail are as follows;



#1 36°15'00.6"N 121°40'51.5"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. I tried to move it but it was to heavy. Even with the leg press method.

#2 @36.249775,-121.6830832 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs a cross-cut saw.

#3 36°14'57.7"N 121°40'41.6"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge Needs a cross-cut saw.

#4 - A Redwood tree complex @36.2510917,-121.6762193,17 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw

#4 - B Redwood tree complex @36.2511556,-121.6763888 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw

#5 36°15'14.1"N 121°40'14.5"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw. One cut only!

#6 and #7 two trees. 36°15'16.0"N 121°40'10.7"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge.

#8 One or two trees. * one of these trees may be in my last photo. I am not 100% sure. 36°15'16.0"N 121°40'10.7"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. ≈

#9 and #10 two more oak trees. 36°15'17.1"N 121°40'09.2"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Might be clearable with hand saws.

Past Redwood camp there are more down trees.

# 11 Oak tree 36°15'24.1"N 121°40'09.4"W Dead Fall Between Redwood camp and Big Sur Trail junction on Pine Ridge Trail.

#12 Oak tree 36.25574, -121.66867 Dead Fall Between Redwood camp and Big Sur Trail junction on Pine Ridge Trail.

# 13 Oak tree 36.25516, -121.66626 Dead Fall Between Redwood camp and Big Sur Trail junction on Pine Ridge Trail.

# 14 OId oat tree 36.25516, -121.66626 Dead Fall Between Redwood camp and Big Sur Trail junction on Pine Ridge Trail.

There are 8 down trees in my first post and 14 in my 2ed for a total of 22 down trees in this ~15 mile trail segment!

This is an indicator that there are a lot of down trees all throughout the Ventana Wilderness from the February 2024 storms.

I hope to get saw certified as a volunteer with the Ventana Wilderness Alliance (VWA) and participate in trail work trips where I can help clear these trees with a cross-cut saw.

Note that I was able to clear about 5 trees in this segment with just a hand saw. None of which are featured in this report.

If everyone reading this post volunteered one trip per year with (VWA) we would significantly increase the speed of maintenance on these trails. My goal is to do 5-weekend volunteer trips this year or a few of the longer trips.

I also think folks can carry a hand saw and clear some of the smaller stuff as part of a normal backpacking trip.


Cheers, ~ B
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# 11 Oak tree 36°15'24.1"N 121°40'09.4"W Dead Fall Between Redwood camp and Big Sur Trail junction on Pine Ridge Trai.
# 11 Oak tree 36°15'24.1"N 121°40'09.4"W Dead Fall Between Redwood camp and Big Sur Trail junction on Pine Ridge Trai.
#9 and #10  two more oak trees. 36°15'17.1"N 121°40'09.2"W  Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Might be clearable with hand saws.
#9 and #10 two more oak trees. 36°15'17.1"N 121°40'09.2"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Might be clearable with hand saws.
#8 One or two trees. * one of these trees may be in my last photo. I am not 100% sure. 36°15'16.0"N 121°40'10.7"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge.
#8 One or two trees. * one of these trees may be in my last photo. I am not 100% sure. 36°15'16.0"N 121°40'10.7"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge.
#6 and #7 two trees.  36°15'16.0"N 121°40'10.7"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge.
#6 and #7 two trees. 36°15'16.0"N 121°40'10.7"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge.
#5  36°15'14.1"N 121°40'14.5"W  Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw. One cut only!
#5 36°15'14.1"N 121°40'14.5"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw. One cut only!
#4 - B Redwood tree complex @36.2511556,-121.6763888 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw
#4 - B Redwood tree complex @36.2511556,-121.6763888 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw
#4 - A Redwood tree complex @36.2510917,-121.6762193,17 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw
#4 - A Redwood tree complex @36.2510917,-121.6762193,17 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge. Needs cross cut saw
#3 36°14'57.7"N 121°40'41.6"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge
#3 36°14'57.7"N 121°40'41.6"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge
#2 @36.249775,-121.6830832 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge
#2 @36.249775,-121.6830832 Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge
#1 36°15'00.6"N 121°40'51.5"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge
#1 36°15'00.6"N 121°40'51.5"W Deadfall - Sykes Camp to Big Sur Trail on Pine Ridge
crockettonearth
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail

Post by crockettonearth »

Date Hiked: February 26, 2024
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

My wife and I did a three-day trip (02/23-25-2024) from Big Sur Station. Starting on Pine Ridge trail, connecting to Big Sur Trail, then the coast road to Terrenc Creek Trail, back to Pine Ridge to Big Sur Station.

This 33-mile loop with about 7,500ft of climbing is a great option for a three-day weekend. However, after the last two windy storms in February where wind speeds were in the 70mph range, there is a lot of deadfall on all the trails. In simple language, the wind blew down a lot of trees.

The majority of the blow-downs on the Pine Ridge trail between Big Sur Station and Big Sur trail are too large to be cut out with a small hand saw. A larger cross-cut saw will be needed to remove these.

In contrast, the majority of the blowdowns on the Big Sur trail can be cut out with a small hand saw.

Focusing on the Pine Ridge trail there are blowdowns in the following locations.

Generally speaking, the largest density of blowdowns is between Barlow Flat campsite and Sykes Camp. In this two-mile section of trail 6 trees need to be cut out with a cross-cut saw.

The sequence of blows downs on Pine Ridge is as follows:
About 1 mile past the interaction of the trail leading down to Vetana Camp 36.25007, -121.7382Image


The first blowdown between Barlow Flat and Skes Camp is in the attached photo.

Random note; the crib wall that was built to fix the washout just after Barlowflat causing the trail to be revirted through that camp is holding up well!

The next two blowdowns number #2 and #3 between Barlow Flat and Skes Camp

Blowdown number #4 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp

Blowdown number #5 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp

Blowdown number #6 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp

#7 Blowdown between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp

Crossing the Big Sur River during the winter after recent storms at about 400cfs was intense! Cross with caution and when in doubt do not cross!
https://www.dreamflows.com/graphs/day.050.php



* I am going to break this long report into a few posts so that I do not risk losing work through the file upload workflow
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Water bars needed for water flowing on the trail at @36.2473361,-121.697636
Water bars needed for water flowing on the trail at @36.2473361,-121.697636
#7 Blowdown between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp
#7 Blowdown between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp
Blowdown number #6 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp
Blowdown number #6 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp
Blowdown number #5 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp
Blowdown number #5 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp
Blowdown number #4 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp
Blowdown number #4 between Barlow Flat and Sykes Camp
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The first blowdown between Barlow Flat and Skes Camp .jpg
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail

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Date Hiked: November 8, 2023
General Condition: Wilderness Freeway (Heavily used and/or well maintained)

This may have been reported elsewhere (see, eg, bigsurtrailmap.net), but just wanted to report that the washout above Barlow Flat has been fully repaired and is in great condition. It is no longer necessary to reroute by descending to Barlow and back up. Going in, we met the trail crew on their way out. Kudos for their hard work in a very difficult area. I can't even imagine how much effort that took. Pine Ridge trail is in excellent condition from BS Station to Sykes.
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Betsy M
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail - China Camp to Pine Ridge

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Date Hiked: May 23, 2023
General Condition: Wilderness Freeway (Heavily used and/or well maintained)

A VWA volunteer trail crew worked on the Pine Ridge Trail between Church Creek Divide and Pine Ridge May 19-24th. We were supported by a USFS packer and a former MRD firefighter, who packed our gear to Divide Camp. This allowed us to clear trees on the Pine Ridge Trail as far as Pine Ridge Camp. We also cleared out some rockfall sections on Pine Ridge.

With the exception of a huge madrone just past the Carmel River headwaters, about a mile past Divide Camp, the trail is clear all the way from the trailhead at China Camp, out to Pine Ridge.

On our last morning the marine layer came all the way up to Church Creek Divide. We could see it pouring over Puerto Suelo into the Carmel River drainage to the north, and coming up Church Creek, filling the valleys to the south, as far as we could see.
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail

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Date Hiked: June 17, 2023
General Condition: Wilderness Freeway (Heavily used and/or well maintained)

My first time hiking in Ventana. I loved it and enjoyed moments of solitude on the trail, joy in the green expansive meadows past the Pine Valley cabin and wonder at the brilliant wildflower displays.

No difficulties.

Summary: I hiked in from China Camp around 8:15am on Saturday the 17th and made it to the Church Creek Divide around 10:30am (at which point I veered off onto the Carmel River Trail to Pine Valley.) I hiked out on Sunday the 18th from the Church Creek Divide around 6:40am and made it back to China Camp around 9:00am.

The trail was very well maintained, with easy tread and clear of brush. There was no water (nor did I expect any). It was hotter than I expected. I had looked at forecasts and expected in the 60s. It easily felt high 70s (although I was not able to take the temp). It was full sun, no cloud cover or fog. Wind picked up during the hike out. Most of the grasses were turning brown. Many of the penstemon were in bloom as were the yucca/spanish bayonet and sticky monkey flower. The parking lot was full when I arrived and there was one car parked on the side of the forest road. Only one other group had signed the trail register (a group of 4) with dates for this weekend.

Yucca Bloom.jpeg

Many of the grasses were head high at times and did encroach the trail. This occurred more on the hike down towards the Church Creek Divide. However I didn't pick up any hitch hikers (ticks). I startled plenty of lizards. Mostly Western Whiptail with a few of what looked like fence lizards. Many butterflies flitting about. So many mating beetles.

PRT Sunday.jpeg

I saw no other hikers on the PRT going in or out. There were plenty of campers in Pine Valley and more cars at China Camp when I returned on Sunday.

Because of the warm weather, I decided to make an early start on the return hike out Sunday. I am glad I did as we beat the heat and it was pleasant (although merciless) climb back out.

What a great hike.
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail

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Date Hiked: May 15, 2023
General Condition: Wilderness Freeway (Heavily used and/or well maintained)

We hiked from China Camp all the way to the coast on May 13-16th and it was a wondrous wildflower hike. There are a few spots where we had to go around fallen trees but nothing major. Incredible hike. Quite exposed and lots of downhill before redwood camp but the wildflowers helped.
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail

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Date Hiked: April 15, 2023
General Condition: Clear (no obstacles and tread well defined)

With the help of the VWA/USFS and ACE Trail Crews, the Pine Ridge Trail has been reopened from the Big Sur Station. The washed-out section just past the Ventana Trail Junction has been repaired.

As always, do your part to keep things nice, pack out your trash, have a valid Fire/Stove permit.

Happy Hiking.
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Betsy M
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Re: Pine Ridge Trail

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Date Hiked: March 18, 2023
General Condition: Wilderness Freeway (Heavily used and/or well maintained)

VWA trail crew volunteers cleared the two complex trees that were obstructing the trail, and sketched in a route above the slide, so it is possible to get by if you are super careful. This section remains closed to the public, and this slide section is due to get a full reconstruction, cutting the bench far back into the hillside. Additionally, the State Parks section of the Pine Ridge Trail remains closed. Image
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