by Site Administrator » Tue May 26, 2009 11:33 am
Date Hiked: February 1, 2007
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)
Conditions reported by: Carl A. Mounteer
Survey date: 1-FEBRUARY-2007
General: DIFFICULT
Specific:
Section: This report refers only to the first quarter mile of this trail from the "Ventana Cone Trail" or Skinner Ridge Trail.
In the interval I hiked, this trail was heavily obscured by fallen leaves. It is very easy to lose the trail in this part. At one critical point some kind soul marked the trail with pink trail tape. Thank God!!! At one point I lost the trail and was only able to find it with the help of this tape.
This experience is the best argument for the controversial use of trail tape. I have read on the VWA forum of those who turn criticize the use of trail tape as a nuisance. That kind of disdain works fine if you are familiar with a trail. For a person who is hiking the trail for the first time, trail tape marking on an obscure trial is essential to avoiding getting lost.
There were also frequent, mysterious patches of earth, freshly exposed, for about a square foot to a square yard. Two other hikers on the trail speculated these might have been created by wild boars.
I did not reach Pine Creek. I turned back because I was having knee problems, I had never been on this trail, and the obscuration of the trail by leaves spelled trouble for me.
Things may improve in the late spring when these leaves rot into the ground and the trail becomes clearer. In the meantime, I would approach this trail from the Skinner Ridge side with the utmost caution and alertness the the progress of the tread.
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Conditions reported by: Lindsay Jeffers
Survey date: 20-MAY-2006
General: CLEAR
Specific:
Accompanied by a resident of White Rock, I hiked the full length of this trail. It has had excellent recent work on the section between Whiterock and Ponciano Ridge. The section down to and along Pine Creek has a heavy load of poison oak, but the footbed is mostly level and the route is carefully flagged. Note that beyond Pine Creek, the trail leaves public land. The large patch of poison oak fifty yards below the junction of the VDC trail noted by the last poster remains.
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Conditions reported by: jdoelman
Survey date: 15-MAY-2004
General: PASSABLE
Specific:
Section: Double Cones Trail jct. to Pine Creek Camp
This trail is in fine shape, with the exception of one patch of poison oak near the beginning of the trail. There is an obvious use path proceeding up Ponciano Ridge, possibly used by hunters? The camp stove has been smashed by a fallen tree at the camp.
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Conditions reported by: Jake Goetz
Survey date: 9-OCT-2002
General: CLEAR
Specific:
The Pine Creek trail was surprisingly clear and well maintained. It must get a lot of use from folks coming up from the White Rock Gun Club. I only traveled down the trail 2 miles (to the intersection of what used to be the San Clemente Trail, now completely gone as far as I could tell). The trail traveled an old road down through open Madrone and Oak forest with several switch backs until it reaches the canyon bottom. It then travels along the creek passing several very nice spots to camp. The creek at this point was dry. The bottom of the canyon is predominately mature Tan Oak forest, relatively open. Pine Creek camp was a pleasant spot if you like canyon bottom campsites, and it did have water. If your seeking a little solitude, this may be the spot. The trail was well maintained, but didn't have the heavy traffic.
[b]Date Hiked:[/b] February 1, 2007
[b]General Condition:[/b] Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)
Conditions reported by: Carl A. Mounteer
Survey date: 1-FEBRUARY-2007
General: DIFFICULT
Specific:
Section: This report refers only to the first quarter mile of this trail from the "Ventana Cone Trail" or Skinner Ridge Trail.
In the interval I hiked, this trail was heavily obscured by fallen leaves. It is very easy to lose the trail in this part. At one critical point some kind soul marked the trail with pink trail tape. Thank God!!! At one point I lost the trail and was only able to find it with the help of this tape.
This experience is the best argument for the controversial use of trail tape. I have read on the VWA forum of those who turn criticize the use of trail tape as a nuisance. That kind of disdain works fine if you are familiar with a trail. For a person who is hiking the trail for the first time, trail tape marking on an obscure trial is essential to avoiding getting lost.
There were also frequent, mysterious patches of earth, freshly exposed, for about a square foot to a square yard. Two other hikers on the trail speculated these might have been created by wild boars.
I did not reach Pine Creek. I turned back because I was having knee problems, I had never been on this trail, and the obscuration of the trail by leaves spelled trouble for me.
Things may improve in the late spring when these leaves rot into the ground and the trail becomes clearer. In the meantime, I would approach this trail from the Skinner Ridge side with the utmost caution and alertness the the progress of the tread.
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Conditions reported by: Lindsay Jeffers
Survey date: 20-MAY-2006
General: CLEAR
Specific:
Accompanied by a resident of White Rock, I hiked the full length of this trail. It has had excellent recent work on the section between Whiterock and Ponciano Ridge. The section down to and along Pine Creek has a heavy load of poison oak, but the footbed is mostly level and the route is carefully flagged. Note that beyond Pine Creek, the trail leaves public land. The large patch of poison oak fifty yards below the junction of the VDC trail noted by the last poster remains.
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Conditions reported by: jdoelman
Survey date: 15-MAY-2004
General: PASSABLE
Specific:
Section: Double Cones Trail jct. to Pine Creek Camp
This trail is in fine shape, with the exception of one patch of poison oak near the beginning of the trail. There is an obvious use path proceeding up Ponciano Ridge, possibly used by hunters? The camp stove has been smashed by a fallen tree at the camp.
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Conditions reported by: Jake Goetz
Survey date: 9-OCT-2002
General: CLEAR
Specific:
The Pine Creek trail was surprisingly clear and well maintained. It must get a lot of use from folks coming up from the White Rock Gun Club. I only traveled down the trail 2 miles (to the intersection of what used to be the San Clemente Trail, now completely gone as far as I could tell). The trail traveled an old road down through open Madrone and Oak forest with several switch backs until it reaches the canyon bottom. It then travels along the creek passing several very nice spots to camp. The creek at this point was dry. The bottom of the canyon is predominately mature Tan Oak forest, relatively open. Pine Creek camp was a pleasant spot if you like canyon bottom campsites, and it did have water. If your seeking a little solitude, this may be the spot. The trail was well maintained, but didn't have the heavy traffic.