by veganshredder » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:50 pm
Date Hiked: May 28, 2023
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)
My two friends and our lil pup Acorn hiked the Arroyo Seco Trail (AST) West to East (top to bottom) to connect our 2.5 day backpacking trip from Carrizo Trail, to and back from Ojito Camp, then across NCRT to Arroyo Seco and back into Indians. The section of NCRT between Cook Springs Camp and the top of AST was lovely, open for the most part, with great views. We stopped at the top of AST to chat with the first people we'd seen all weekend, two women and their injured dog who was in one of their bags.
After chatting, we didn't have much trouble finding the entrance to AST under some Live Oaks, but we were immediately forced into highly dense chaparral bushwacking (Ceanothus and Chamise... tough, poky shrubs). Luckily, we had just encountered a lot of poison oak on our hike that morning and were equipped with Gortex shells, pants, hats, and glasses to help push through the dense chaparral. Needless to say, the trail quickly turned into squatting, crab walking, then crawling through chaparral tunnels so dense that even when crawling our packs were easily snagged and caught up. Tread was fairly evident the entire time, but we definitely needed to redirect multiple times with the help of my Garmin fully zoomed in. We instantly became worried for the women behind us as their dogpack made them about 7' tall, aka basically impossible to crawl through the chaparral without hurting the pup. They likely turned around and rerouted back down Rodeo Trail, the way they came.
The chaparral battle of crawling, pulling, smacking, poking, and falling took about an hour to get through 0.5 miles. I'd definitely rate this section as red (impassible to extremely difficult) for a majority of people due to chaparral overgrowth. Unless your willing to crawl with full chaparral gear for an hour, you can't get through this section. Luckily, the Dolan Fire scar opened up the chaparral into a burnt knobcone pine recovery zone - a much needed breath of fresh air. This section of trail until the 2nd to last major switchback was awesome; open, beautiful scenery, unique plant communities and fire recovery.
As we descended to upper Arroyo Seco Creek and Madrone Camp, the poison oak started to encroach again. From here to Forks Camp, I'd rate the trail as orange (Difficult but Passable). Near the bottom of the trail down to the stream, there's a narrow section of trail that's slumped downslope and has a 30' drop. Trail is about 1.5' wide, and we could navigate it easily and carefully. After that, multiple brush blowdowns and small landslides blocked the trail, forcing us to crawl under or around blowdowns through mandatory poison oak to the face or hands. We washed up at the stream, then tried to reconnect to the trail, but too much poison oak over waste height kept us in the stream channel until we were able to link up with the trail again.
The section between Madrone Camp and Forks Camp is completely dominated by poison oak, rarely up to chest height. There is no avoiding it and your clothes and pack will be completely covered in it, so be mindful of you hands and face if they aren't covered. Literal seas of the stuff that cannot be bypassed. False madrone camp was open and wide, but with no uncontaminated firewood or easy stream access without charging through poison oak, so we decided to continue on. Madrone camp was looking good, with a few clearings for tents which looked recently active. Again, no easy stream access that's not shrouded by poison oak. Forks camp was looking good, clear, and nice stream access. But some other backpackers from Memorial Park already had a nice setup. So we opted for a beachside camp further downstream. Everything downstream of Forks Camp was yellow (passable - clear) with some light brushing, but nothing like the upper reaches of the stream and headwaters.
To be completely honest, I wouldn't recommend anyone coming from Memorial Park to go past Forks Camp on the AST due to poison oak intensity. If you're coming down from NCRT, the clearer path is likely Rodeo Flat trail, unless your willing to crawl for an hour to push through chaparral. In the future, I'll be returning from the Cone Peak area to Indians the way we came, via Carrizo Trail. Just wanted to try out the AST to see if it was a preferable option...lol. Good luck out there and be sure to bring plenty of coverage, soap, and a washcloth, you'll need it! Classic Big Sur!!!
[b]Date Hiked:[/b] May 28, 2023
[b]General Condition:[/b] Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)
My two friends and our lil pup Acorn hiked the Arroyo Seco Trail (AST) West to East (top to bottom) to connect our 2.5 day backpacking trip from Carrizo Trail, to and back from Ojito Camp, then across NCRT to Arroyo Seco and back into Indians. The section of NCRT between Cook Springs Camp and the top of AST was lovely, open for the most part, with great views. We stopped at the top of AST to chat with the first people we'd seen all weekend, two women and their injured dog who was in one of their bags.
After chatting, we didn't have much trouble finding the entrance to AST under some Live Oaks, but we were immediately forced into highly dense chaparral bushwacking (Ceanothus and Chamise... tough, poky shrubs). Luckily, we had just encountered a lot of poison oak on our hike that morning and were equipped with Gortex shells, pants, hats, and glasses to help push through the dense chaparral. Needless to say, the trail quickly turned into squatting, crab walking, then crawling through chaparral tunnels so dense that even when crawling our packs were easily snagged and caught up. Tread was fairly evident the entire time, but we definitely needed to redirect multiple times with the help of my Garmin fully zoomed in. We instantly became worried for the women behind us as their dogpack made them about 7' tall, aka basically impossible to crawl through the chaparral without hurting the pup. They likely turned around and rerouted back down Rodeo Trail, the way they came.
The chaparral battle of crawling, pulling, smacking, poking, and falling took about an hour to get through 0.5 miles. I'd definitely rate this section as red (impassible to extremely difficult) for a majority of people due to chaparral overgrowth. Unless your willing to crawl with full chaparral gear for an hour, you can't get through this section. Luckily, the Dolan Fire scar opened up the chaparral into a burnt knobcone pine recovery zone - a much needed breath of fresh air. This section of trail until the 2nd to last major switchback was awesome; open, beautiful scenery, unique plant communities and fire recovery.
As we descended to upper Arroyo Seco Creek and Madrone Camp, the poison oak started to encroach again. From here to Forks Camp, I'd rate the trail as orange (Difficult but Passable). Near the bottom of the trail down to the stream, there's a narrow section of trail that's slumped downslope and has a 30' drop. Trail is about 1.5' wide, and we could navigate it easily and carefully. After that, multiple brush blowdowns and small landslides blocked the trail, forcing us to crawl under or around blowdowns through mandatory poison oak to the face or hands. We washed up at the stream, then tried to reconnect to the trail, but too much poison oak over waste height kept us in the stream channel until we were able to link up with the trail again.
The section between Madrone Camp and Forks Camp is completely dominated by poison oak, rarely up to chest height. There is no avoiding it and your clothes and pack will be completely covered in it, so be mindful of you hands and face if they aren't covered. Literal seas of the stuff that cannot be bypassed. False madrone camp was open and wide, but with no uncontaminated firewood or easy stream access without charging through poison oak, so we decided to continue on. Madrone camp was looking good, with a few clearings for tents which looked recently active. Again, no easy stream access that's not shrouded by poison oak. Forks camp was looking good, clear, and nice stream access. But some other backpackers from Memorial Park already had a nice setup. So we opted for a beachside camp further downstream. Everything downstream of Forks Camp was yellow (passable - clear) with some light brushing, but nothing like the upper reaches of the stream and headwaters.
To be completely honest, I wouldn't recommend anyone coming from Memorial Park to go past Forks Camp on the AST due to poison oak intensity. If you're coming down from NCRT, the clearer path is likely Rodeo Flat trail, unless your willing to crawl for an hour to push through chaparral. In the future, I'll be returning from the Cone Peak area to Indians the way we came, via Carrizo Trail. Just wanted to try out the AST to see if it was a preferable option...lol. Good luck out there and be sure to bring plenty of coverage, soap, and a washcloth, you'll need it! Classic Big Sur!!!