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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby crib on Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:45 am

Date Hiked: December 15, 2013
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

I hiked from Cone Peak Road DOWN San Antonio Trail and it was SEVERELY overgrown... at least for the first quarter mile. I'm used to overgrown trails in Big Sur, but this one beat me. I gave up after that quarter mile, and turned back. Very difficult, but passable... if need be.
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby at_scott on Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:35 pm

Date Hiked: November 9, 2013
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

I hiked the San Antonio Trail from Cone Peak Road to Camp Fresno and back. The trail is pretty overgrown and there are a lot of downed trees across the trail. In spite of this, the trail is easy to follow and the tread is always evident. Poison Oak and ticks are abundant! I don't know if I enjoyed the hike but Camp Fresno was nice with plenty of running water.
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby slrlara on Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:18 pm

Date Hiked: April 5, 2013
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

Trail is non existent, the trail head sign is hidden under heavy brush, I took a picture of it, sorry I can't upload it. The tail is impassable, it is completely overgrown.
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby RSIBryce on Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:54 pm

Date Hiked: March 22, 2013
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

Section: San Antonio Trail to Fresno Camp

This trail is quite overgrown & brushy and the poison oak is proliferating now into the Spring time growth period, pretty much impossible to avoid so be warned if going to attempt! I also picked quite a few ticks off as I hiked. There were also a number of deadfalls to maneuver. The tread is evident, however, and very much able to be followed down to Fresno camp if you don't mind the oak and pushing through some brush. There are a few different campsites in the area and a really neat area to explore with a large meadow and beautiful creek.
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby jack_glendening on Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:14 pm

Date Hiked: February 11, 2011
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

This report is for the section from Fresno Camp to San Antonio Camp.

Beyond Fresno Camp the trail has not had much use lately. I assume the fact that the trail is now a dead-end and will require back-tracking to get out has discouraged its use. Crossing to the North side of the San Antonio River at Fresno Camp, the next 1.0 mile is very difficult, with much downfall and vines, no clearly discernible track, and an additional 6 river crossings - the trail is supposed to be following an old roadbed but that is often not apparent. You find a pretty 30 ft waterfall, in season (see photo below), after the fifth crossing - a fire ring shows people have camped here to enjoy the falls. After the last river crossing the roadbed/tread becomes more apparent - although easy to lose from time to time in the downfall and growth, this section is less brushy and more easily followed than the section with the river crossings. Beyond San Antonio Camp. you can leave the roadbed, which heads towards private property, to follow the river for another 1/4 mi to reach a stone cabin (see photo below) - note the new picnic table, it's obviously being used by someone!

While the path could be followed by a backpacker, the amount of deadfall that one would have to maneuver around or below would likely not make it very enjoyable.

Because of difficulties following the "trail", I found that in many places my track coming out differed from that going in, since I was purposely not using my outbound knowledge on my return but simply attempting to find the best route I could in each direction. Based on my notes, I've placed what I consider the net "best" route into my on-line trailmap (http://ventanahiking.net) - it does go though all the obvious trail signs I found (flags, sawed branches, and obvious tread) with a few "spurs" indicating spots where the route in-between could easily differ. To encourage folks to make their own visit to San Antonio Camp and the stone cabin, I've includes waypoints giving locations for the crossings, the waterfall, and cabin in the GPX file you can download from the trailmap.

I note that Schaffer's description differs from what I found. He mentions 10 river crossings whereas I only found 7 (actually he should have found an odd number!?). And he calls the section after the last crossing "cross-country" out to San Antonio Camp, not mentioning the old roadbed. He mentions seeing the waterfall but not San Antonio Camp, so possibly he did not go much further than the waterfall. His mapped trail only goes down to Fresno Camp.

PS: it was interesting to find that the correct location for Fresno Camp illustrated the errors which can be in the terrain data used for both the USGS quadrangle maps and Google Earth. For both, the correct location of Fresno Camp appears to be up on the slope north of the river gully - but if you look closely at Google Earth you can follow the actual river location and see that it does not follow the mapped river gully, instead seeming to flow up the side of the terrain-data-based "hill".
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San Antonio Trail waterfall
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Casey Stone Cabin
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby jack_glendening on Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:09 pm

Date Hiked: February 11, 2012
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

This report is for the section from Cone Peak Road down to Fresno Camp.

The trail was brushy in places and had some downfall, which required short-cutting the apex of the last switchback, but was followable and backpackers would not have too much difficulty.
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby ACC on Tue May 03, 2011 6:23 pm

Date Hiked: May 1, 2011
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

Hiked the San Antonio Trail from Cone Peak Road down to Fresno Camp. Trail is very overgrown and Poison Oak is thriving. Lots of downed trees but all are passable. Fresno camp is in decent condition ready for a reasonably sized group. Machete is recommended for this hike. The trail itself is in good condition, very easy to follow. Enjoy!
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby Kayaker on Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:57 am

Date Hiked: April 9, 2011
General Condition: Impassable (completely overgrown or tread obliterated)

We kayaked the San Antonio River. During that trip we did walk some portions of the San Antonio trail. The trail is followable and has good foot bed down to Fresno camp. Beyond fresno camp we used the trail to portage around some obstacles on a few occasions. Related to the trail, from what I saw the trail is either Impassable, or extremely difficult. The short portions of the trail that we walked on were almost unidentifiable as trail.
We stopped at the "Casey stone house" along the way. The house looks nice from the outside. The inside is in a very sad state. The inside of the house is strewn with trash in various states of decay. Among the trash are two blue 50 gallon drums and a lot of smaller debris. Outside is a nice picnic table. It is unclear how so much ugly trash accumulated. One of the doors is missing and the other is a bit damaged. I did not actually go inside because it was very un-inviting in there.
We stopped by the location of the former "Sargent camp" (lost camps of the ventana). That is a nice flat area just downstream of the casey stone house.


I applaud Timothy Bottoms reaching out to the VWA in an effort to clean up the stone house site. It is in a sad state.
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby timothy bottoms on Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:44 pm

Date Hiked: March 25, 2011
General Condition: Difficult (brushy and/or many deadfalls, faint tread)

My name is Timothy Bottoms and I own the "Salsipuedes Ranch" at the end of the San Antonio trail.Salsipuedes is two separate160 acre homesteads . Tract 38A by Vicente Avila and tract 38B is Pedro L. Hidalgo.Both prior to USFS Monterey Forest 1906, then Santa Barbara Forest now Los Padres...history
Regarding end of trail and "Stone Cabin" my private land boundary is posted and set just down stream on south side a brass marker set by Dept. of Interior in spring of 2000 as a result of over 8 years litigation with the Interior Bureau of Land Appeals in Arlington Virginia. There is no public access without permission due to public abuse over many years.
The "Stone Cabin" has been abandon and a rather large Black Bear has taken residence in the cabin over the last 5 years.Garbage has been strewn everywhere ...hey it's a Bear . Long story short I have a preponderance of evidence prior 1924 which proves cabin was Pedro's Homestead residence . The documented USFS lease in 1924 surveyed by a USFS "unknown" surveyor to "Vivian Casey" of King City as a recreational residence and his heirs have since used it but not for a very , very long time. There is a solid waste dump in the drainage on the South side directly across from cabin which during high water brings debris down to my ranch.Any of you want to help me clean it up? We could contact District Ranger Sherry Tune..a very nice person...and talk about it. I would like to have the lease and share it with the public.I know it would make Pedro happy. Safe journeys and I call the Bear Pedro by the way. Timothy Bottoms, Salsipuedes Ranch
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Re: San Antonio Trail

Postby jdoelman on Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:03 pm

Date Hiked: March 19, 2011
General Condition: Passable (some brush and/or deadfalls, tread evident)

I encountered some slushy snow and some muddy spots along the cone-peak road. The gated and locked cone-peak road is about 3.5 miles from the trailhead. The San Antonio trailhead sports a sign which becons hikers down 1.5 miles to the fresno camp, or 4 miles to the San Antonio Camp. The trail seemed to be fairly brushy but easy to follow and has good tread. If it is damp out you can expect to get pretty wet because of the encroaching brush. I counted 3 deadfalls across the trail. I would have rated this as difficult if the tread had been more difficult to follow. I went as far as Fresno camp. I didn't have the stomach to go further because it was raining and I was getting quite damp.
Next time out I hope to make it to San Antonio camp and maybe even "lower san antonio camp" .
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