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Re: Water along the ArroyoSeco-Indians Road

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:29 pm
by jack_glendening
Jim

After reading your post, decided to call it "Wild Orchid Spring" instead! :-)

Jack

Re: Water along the ArroyoSeco-Indians Road

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:41 am
by jack_glendening
I never looked for the molybdenum mine - I understand it is the vicinity but much deeper, i.e. you can crawl into it.

Since that spot seems always wet and is easily accessible from the road and someone did find is useful, I've now added it to the BigSurTrailmap as "False Jackhammer Spring".

Jack

Re: Water along the ArroyoSeco-Indians Road

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:13 pm
by Jim Ringland
I recall that grotto when I did the AS-I Road in 2016. This is where I saw the Epipactis gigantea, and was more than a little surprised to find wild orchids growing in that otherwise dry country. When I went by I sort of assumed this was the Molybdenum test mine, although all I know about the mine is the very brief mention in the old Sierra Club guide. Jack, do you have more info about the mine? Have you (or anyone on this board) actually seen it if it's not this?

(If anyone is interested, my pictures of the spot from May 14, 2016 are here: https://jtringl.smugmug.com/Browser/California-Coast-Ranges/Ventana-Arroyo-Seco-2/i-gpDqDQF/A. From that screen, hit the > arrow at the right to see more.)

The location does more-or-less match an intermittent stream marked on the topo. The presence of the Woodwardia ferns up top -- you can see the old fronds hanging down in your picture and more in mine -- suggest this is a regularly moist place. Looks like it's become more than just intermittent.

Re: Water along the ArroyoSeco-Indians Road

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:08 pm
by Devon
That makes sense, thanks for the info. We saw a huge tangle of poison oak in a bend in the road a little way North, but did not investigate so don't know if there was water at the real Jackhammer Spring. We were just very glad for that metal bowl!

Re: Water along the ArroyoSeco-Indians Road

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:53 am
by jack_glendening
Jackhammer Spring is 0.3 miles north, well off the road, behind a sycamore tree

Re: Water along the ArroyoSeco-Indians Road

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:15 am
by Devon
We just bike camped up from Arroyo Seco and that little spring saved us! There was a small metal bowl catching the water dripping off the ferns. Is it not Jackhammer Springs? It is just on the North side of 'the slide'. We thought it was, and camped nearby, but didn't explore farther South.

Water along the ArroyoSeco-Indians Road

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:42 pm
by jack_glendening
A week ago I went out to see what sources of water were still available along the ArroyoSeco-Indians Road in late summer of this dry year. I found plenty of water in the pool below old Hanging Valley Camp (though notably lower than at other times of the year). But "Jackhammer Spring" was dry, despite the Sierra Club Trail Guide's considering it a "reliable source". I did find one surprising (to me) source of water immedately north of the slide area (photo below) - just a trickle of water, but enough to form a small pool frequented by yellow jackets, which is what led me to investigate. This does not appear to be the molybdenum test mine, which I understand is nearby - this was shallow, whereas the test mine was deeper.

Can anyone shed further light on this? Has anyone else noted this water source? I was very surprised to find water here after finding "reliable" Jackhammer Spring was dry.

Jack